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The delicious and the tasty…. Attie Awards.

March 13, 2010

Yay, two Attie awards in a week, can you stand all the Attie goodness?

This Saturday’s award winner goes to someone with a stale prop comedy routine who has a very famous blog.

Have you guessed who it is?

That’s right, Dr. Mr. PZ Myers.

So, Dr. Myers is attending an atheist conference down under. Apparently, he decided to try a little Vegemite, an interesting little Australian spread. (Is it fruit? Olives? What?)

He did so in a way that anyone could have predicted. He put it on a consecrated host.

We just have one thing to say about Dr. Myers tasting said Vegemite on a consecrated host.

Yawn.

Seriously, PZ, isn’t this routine getting a bit old?In case you haven’t been following along, PZ became famous for taking a  host putting a nail through it and putting it in a trash can with coffee grounds, pages of the Bible, the Koran and the God Delusion. As you might imagine, it raised quite a stink.

PZ, we here at the Thomas Society get it. You don’t think it’s the Body of Christ. You have nothing but contempt for silly superstition. Really? You? SHOCKING!!!!!!! 

 And, from watching the video, we are wondering, do you carry hosts things around with you? Really?

The routine just comes off like an old Saturday Night Live skit that has long worn out it’s welcome. Sure, it’s probably going to still piss off Bill Donohue. But then, so does just about everything else.

So, St. Thomas, release the ho…. Wait…. What? They are asleep? Ah well, can’t say that I blame them.

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16 Comments leave one →
  1. Knockgoats permalink
    March 13, 2010 2:53 pm

    Just compare the traffic here and at Pharyngula, Jon. Do I detect the whiff of sour grapes?

  2. Knockgoats permalink
    March 13, 2010 3:42 pm

    Jon, it is in any case dishonest of you to omit the context in which PZ Myers “desecrated the host”: attempts to get a student dismissed from his university – not to mention violence and death threats against him – because he took a “consecrated host” out of the service. The point was – and evidently you still haven’t got it – that there is no general obligation to treat the sacred symbols of another as sacred, or to respect ridiculous nonsense – like the claim that a man in a dress muttering the right magic words turns a cracker into the flesh and blood of someone 2,000 years dead. Interestingly, according to PZ, the only death threats he received after “desecrating” not only the host, but the Koran and The God Delusion, appeared to come from outraged Catholics, not Muslims or Dawkinsites. The point of repeating the “outrage” is to show he won’t be intimidated, and to exhaust the capacity for expressing outrage. You might have noticed that Rushdie’s The Satanic Verses is now on open sale in many bookshops and the “death sentence” on Rushdie himself has been lifted – because Islamist extremists have been unable to suppress the book (highly recommended by the way, for those who haven’t read it), or even to go on expressing outrage past a certain point. So when you say “it’s old news”, etc., yes indeed, that’s part of the point. The “desecration” harms no-one, and as it’s repeated, this becomes more and more obvious, until even Bill Donahue will be unable to go on pretending it does.

  3. thomas2026 permalink*
    March 13, 2010 6:24 pm

    No, it’s not dishonest, as I put the link in for everyone to see, if they like. Besides, that really isn’t the point of the post, is it?

    You haven’t been around enough to get the Atties just yet, Knockgoats. Everyone is a possible victim. That’s the way it is. Hell, even I got one. Read the Attie’s and you will find it.

  4. Knockgoats permalink
    March 13, 2010 6:31 pm

    Jon,

    Not the point. You know the whole matter was exhaustively (and indeed exhaustingly) discussed, and the “desecration” was not done out of the blue. You present it as if it was. The link you give does not provide the background, because eveyone following the brouhaha was already aware of it. What’s more, you weren’t even accurate: no pages of the Bible were included – only of the Koran, and TGD.

  5. thomas2026 permalink*
    March 13, 2010 6:38 pm

    Knockgoats,
    Once again, I shall point out to you the Attie awards are meant for fun. If you can’t handle it, I don’t know what else to say. It’s a way to poke fun at atheists and Christians. I know exactly why he did it and why he continues to do it. I’m well aware of the orginal incident of why he did it. I still find myself not caring and thinking his actions are dumb.

  6. March 13, 2010 11:06 pm

    I think it’s still a tasty Attie any way you serve it. Jon is right that the joke has been done before, but … darn it … Vegemite on Holy-Toast is kind of funny. Win-Win.

  7. Knockgoats permalink
    March 14, 2010 5:30 am

    I know exactly why he did it and why he continues to do it. – Jon

    Nope.

    What’s really stupid is believing (or claiming to believe) that the right magic words said by a certified magician (who just must have been born with the right set of genitals) turn a cracker into flesh and a glass of cheap plonk into blood – even though this doesn’t actually make any detectable difference to them. How about lifetime Attie awards for everyone who claims to believe this?

  8. thomas2026 permalink*
    March 14, 2010 9:29 am

    Knockgoats,
    You are beating a dead horse. Altough, I will go with you on the cheap plonk. When I did communion, I tried to get the good stuff.

  9. March 14, 2010 10:29 am

    I’ll be honest, I think the “tired old routine” bit Jon is trying to get across falls kinda flat. It’s a convention, and they’re having fun with a crowd-pleaser, that’s it. It’s not like he does it on a weekly basis or anything, or even at every convention. But high spirits when everyone’s together and sharing, you pull out something like that. Sort of like a party trick. Not to shock, just to have a bit of fun.

    If you want “tired old routine”, look at communion taken seriously. Cripes, they pull the same old tired party trick every damn week!

  10. Knockgoats permalink
    March 14, 2010 12:23 pm

    Knockgoats, You are beating a dead horse. – Jon

    I know, I know. and not just dead, but stinking. It’s just that you and your fellow-Christians keep insisting it’s galloping around the meadow, neighing!

  11. thomas2026 permalink*
    March 14, 2010 2:02 pm

    Nom, Nom, Nom, Sacred Cows are delicious.

  12. thomas2026 permalink*
    March 14, 2010 2:03 pm

    KG,
    Ok, I did laugh at this, I’ll admit it.

  13. Alex permalink
    March 14, 2010 3:18 pm

    I agree with Jon that this is, essentially, puerile and accomplishes nothing. Also, that it’s the Atties, and who cares?
    I agree with KG that this is, essentially, a really stupid belief. Also, that there’s more to this story than “cranky atheist doesn’t like communion wafers.”

    I’m torn.

    But, either way, this topic is a further proof of Jon’s almost discomforting obsession with what PZ Myers does during his free time. It’s been taken to the point where I see a giant blonde man in a tweed jacket sitting in a tree with binoculars outside a house in Minnesota.

  14. thomas2026 permalink*
    March 14, 2010 3:39 pm

    You are wrong Alex. This is the 21st century, for crying out loud. I have a secret Christian Satellite parked over him at all times. Give me some credit.

  15. Alex permalink
    March 14, 2010 4:47 pm

    I just love the concept of a “Secret Christian Satellite.”

  16. Knockgoats permalink
    March 14, 2010 7:21 pm

    BTW, Jon, if you think PZ (or Dawkins) is a “sacred cow” to me, or to Pharingulistas generally, go to the Pharyngula thread I so do not want to get sucked into the drama, where you will see most of the regular commenters disagreeing with his stance, often vehemently. Search for “Bullshit, PZ”, and you’ll find my own view. There are several older threads where I criticise his ignorance of European politics and consequent tendency to cite right-wing Islamophobes approvingly.

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