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Very Sad News and other Random thoughts.

October 19, 2009

Okay all you Thomasites, I have some very sad news for you this morning. Try not to weep. But it seems that Pastor Who-Must-Not-Be-Named has retied his blog. Yes, yes, calm yourself. Here is a tissue. We are just going to have to find out entertainment elsewhere. Oh wait, Ray Comfort is still in business, so weep not.

This is all kinds of awesome. Creation Museum AND El Chupacabra? Count me in…

Here is an interesting article over at NPR about a rift in the atheist community. I’m interested to here everyone’s thoughts on this, because I have actually observed this myself.

Here is what I’m reading right now:  St. Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologiae, The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Rososevelt and the Crusade for America by Douglas Brinkley, and of course, Origin of the Species by Charles Darwin (First diary coming later today). How’s that for a reading list?

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8 Comments leave one →
  1. AdamK permalink
    October 19, 2009 1:14 pm

    There isn’t any “atheist community.” Not having a god is not a religion. It isn’t even a philosophy; it’s just one element of anybody’s belief system. Atheists speak as individuals, so of course they disagree.

    PZ Myers addresses this article, for which he was interviewed:
    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/10/and_she_sounded_so_nice_on_the.php#comments

  2. Andrew permalink
    October 19, 2009 1:58 pm

    It looks to me very like one of those cases, which seem to be prevalent in modern “journalism”, where the journalist has already decided what story to write before actually looking into the facts.

    As for differences of opinion between atheists, those are not merely desirable but necessary; look up the concept of the “Overton Window” to see why.

  3. Richard Eis permalink
    October 19, 2009 2:29 pm

    I shall miss Toms diatribes on “hardtruth”. The ensuing takedown regardless of the subject was always fun. He never once attacked anything remotely similar to evolution and his “how did birds grow wings by evolution?” will live in infamy.

    The NPR “article” got crackergate completely wrong in date and substance. She then accuses us of being too religious in our atheism. We are atheists for different reasons, we have never been a community and atheism is a lack of something so it’s not exactly a unifying theme.
    Here’s a question though, does she REALLY want us to become a unified sharply focused force?

  4. Fauxrs permalink
    October 19, 2009 4:01 pm

    As an athiest and long time NPR listener/contributor I was somewhat disappointed with Ms. Hagerty’s article. Even more disappointing, though completely expected are the comments made by christians after the article.

    The upshot is, there is no rift at least not in the sense that somehow there is doctrinal schism taking place.

    All that is happening is some athiests are being more vocal and less apologetic towards religion. They are tired of being marginalized, told that they are going to burn in hell, and told by the President of their own country that they shouldnt be considered Americans or Patriots.

    I have no doubt that some athiests would be happy to see religion abolished from the world, that hardly makes it the raison d’etre of atheism or new atheism.

  5. October 20, 2009 9:54 am

    There is no atheist community, but there are atheists looking for communities. As others have said above, however, the problem is that atheism is not a belief system, so you have all manner, and often divergent, personalities, beliefs and approaches that individual atheists bring to the table.

    There are several communities where atheism is the default, or at least predominate, religious viewpoint. Secular Humanism is dominated by atheists, although there need be no conflict with liberal or progressive faith-based belief systems and secular humanism. The skeptic movement, of which I consider myself a part, is overwhelmingly atheist, and does have certain aspects of the community that are anti-religious. However, the overwhelming thrust of the skeptic movement, to my mind, is the promotion of science and scientific thinking, which does seem to necessarily clash with more fundamentalist religious viewpoints.

  6. ferret wrangler permalink
    October 20, 2009 8:13 pm

    More stuff from PZ’s site: Comfort Crap(tm)

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/10/ray_comfort_is_a_parasite.php

  7. October 20, 2009 8:59 pm

    I did not interpret the article as saying that atheist were some kind of community but rather there are groups within atheism that can be seen as communities.

  8. Richard Eis permalink
    October 22, 2009 3:51 am

    Praise be, the resurrection (of hardtruth) is at hand.

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